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Author:  ronedogg [ Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:14 pm ]
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hey im tryin to turn on the drive encryption. but it says my machine doesnt have a TPM. the hell is a tpm and how miuch is this gonna cost lol
Author:  Matt [ Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:51 pm ]
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TPM = Trusted Platform Module.

It is basically a microchip built into the motherboard. I have not heard of the option to buy one as an add in so if you want to know how much it will cost, I guess you have to price a new mobo.

Sorry.
Author:  CMDR Steve-O [ Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:03 pm ]
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This could end very badly indeed. Try getting SP1 and see if there are any new options.

/Hates Vista with a passion
//DO NOT download SP1!
Author:  haveblue [ Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:33 pm ]
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CMDR Steve-O wrote:
This could end very badly indeed. Try getting SP1 and see if there are any new options.

/Hates Vista with a passion
//DO NOT download SP1!


I don't care about disk encryption, so I can't really help. But, since installing SP1 it's seemed noticeably snappier.
Author:  wildbohr [ Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:23 pm ]
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Yeah my SP1 experience has been good so far.
Author:  ronedogg [ Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:12 am ]
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yeah im downloading sp1 now not for this reason but so it can reconize 4 gb of ram. ill let yas know
Author:  haveblue [ Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:50 am ]
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ronedogg wrote:
yeah im downloading sp1 now not for this reason but so it can reconize 4 gb of ram. ill let yas know


SP1 won't help that on a 32bit version.. :?
Author:  ronedogg [ Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:56 pm ]
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that u are correct. that u cannot do it on 32bit is wrong

i seen it today somethin to with memory hole or somthing. it is possable to get 8gb in to reconize my buddy has a computer going rite now that i seen that posts 7gb of his 8 gb of ram
no matter i bought x64 today so its all good. im still gonna get to the bottom of this!!!
Author:  sbeeze316 [ Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:54 pm ]
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it is impossible for any 32bit os to address more then 3.25gb of ram. this is a mathmatical limitation that cannot be overcome by any means other then to goto a 64bit os. a 32 bit os can report the ram is there but WILL NOT address it. the max adressable for 32 bit is 4gb and thats including all memory such as video so most people get about 3.25 under 32bit with 4gb+ installed.
Author:  ronedogg [ Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:18 am ]
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im gonna call him in the morning and get him to take a screen shot.
lol
Author:  sbeeze316 [ Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:28 am ]
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it doesn't matter if it says he has 8gb or whatever, the os won't address it meaning it will not actually use the memory since it can not address it. vista will show 8gb but if you do some snooping you will see that it is only giving addresses to 3.25 or less.


here read this, you may find it informative

http://www.brianmadden.com/content/article/The-4GB-Windows-Memory-Limit-What-does-it-really-mean-
Author:  Matt [ Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:05 am ]
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What I find really interesting on the 32bit OS argument (that it will not address more than 3.25gb) is the fact the server operating systems will address significantly more. If I look at our servers at work running Server 2003 Enterprise R2 32bit, some of them have 6gb installed and it recognizes the full amount. On the MS website, that particular version supports up to 64gigs of RAM and it is still only a 32bit operating system.
Author:  Flama22 [ Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:01 am ]
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Matt wrote:
What I find really interesting on the 32bit OS argument (that it will not address more than 3.25gb) is the fact the server operating systems will address significantly more. If I look at our servers at work running Server 2003 Enterprise R2 32bit, some of them have 6gb installed and it recognizes the full amount. On the MS website, that particular version supports up to 64gigs of RAM and it is still only a 32bit operating system.


Servers tend to have multiple CPU's so what happens (from my understanding) is that each CPU has it's own 32-bit memory pool it can use on it's own seperate threads/process. The system as a whole then has more than the 4GB (~3.25GB after the overhead used by Windows) limit but can only really use the same theoretical amount on any given single task. So think of it like two 32-bit systems that are sitting next to each other rather than one 32-bit system.
Author:  sbeeze316 [ Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:10 am ]
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thats exactly it.
Author:  Matt [ Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:50 pm ]
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Flama22 wrote:
Matt wrote:
What I find really interesting on the 32bit OS argument (that it will not address more than 3.25gb) is the fact the server operating systems will address significantly more. If I look at our servers at work running Server 2003 Enterprise R2 32bit, some of them have 6gb installed and it recognizes the full amount. On the MS website, that particular version supports up to 64gigs of RAM and it is still only a 32bit operating system.


Servers tend to have multiple CPU's so what happens (from my understanding) is that each CPU has it's own 32-bit memory pool it can use on it's own seperate threads/process. The system as a whole then has more than the 4GB (~3.25GB after the overhead used by Windows) limit but can only really use the same theoretical amount on any given single task. So think of it like two 32-bit systems that are sitting next to each other rather than one 32-bit system.


Well that makes sense.

Maybe I should make the switch to running the server world at home. But will I still be able to play games . . . . .

I may just find out.
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