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Author:  ccm001 [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:20 pm ]
Post subject:  shutdowns due to error, time resets - mobo or vid card?
In the last few days I've been having problems with vista shutting down due to critical errors. The computer would reboot, then it would start back up and the time in vista is reset to 2002? All my programs are highlighted in the start bar as if they have just been installed, and other weird things.

These are the only error messages I have seen (as it has also happened when I am not home);

Quote:
Product
Windows

Problem
Video hardware error

Date
01/01/2002 12:10 AM

Status
Not Reported

Description
A problem with your video hardware caused Windows to stop working correctly.

Problem signature
Problem Event Name: LiveKernelEvent
OS Version: 6.0.6002.2.2.0.768.3
Locale ID: 4105

Files that help describe the problem
WD-20011231-2307.dmp
sysdata.xml
Version.txt

Extra information about the problem
BCCode: 117
BCP1: 876BD008
BCP2: 9001C710
BCP3: 00000000
BCP4: 00000000
OS Version: 6_0_6002
Service Pack: 2_0
Product: 768_1


Quote:
Product
Windows

Problem
Shut down unexpectedly

Date
01/01/2002 12:10 AM

Status
Not Reported

Problem signature
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.0.6002.2.2.0.768.3
Locale ID: 4105

Files that help describe the problem (some files may no longer be available)
Mini123101-01.dmp
sysdata.xml
Version.txt

Extra information about the problem
BCCode: 116
BCP1: 876BD008
BCP2: 9001C710
BCP3: 00000000
BCP4: 00000002
OS Version: 6_0_6002
Service Pack: 2_0
Product: 768_1


So doing some research on microsoft (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa469203.aspx and http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa469184.aspx) it seems that perhaps the video driver froze and vista could not get it to restart, so it rebooted.
Can't figure out why the video driver froze, unless my vid card is failing or overheating. Temp logs are fine though.

But then again, why the date change?

Now this morning, I turn the computer on and the MSI-live screen comes on and tells me my cmos battery is low and that the cmos date/time is not set. I start up the bios and what do you know, the date is 2002.

SO my questions are: are my problems lately due to the motherboard, or is there possibly a hardware conflict? Is the date change on vista related to the motherboard cmos battery? And if the battery is only low, why would the date and time need to be reset? I could see doing that if the battery was dead and had to be replaced. Lastly - should I change the battery? I have never overclocked or tweaked any bios settings, so if I change the battery everything should theoretically be the same when it the cmos comes back to life. Note: the battery warning only came up once, I have since shut it down and restarted it with no warnings.

I'd appreciate any insight or direction at all. Thanks.

System set-up:
msi-k9agm2
amdx2 4200
4g ddr2 533 ram (2x2g sticks)
650 watt ocz stealth psu
xfx 8800gt pci-e
vista (32bit)
Author:  CMDR Steve-O [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: shutdowns due to error, time resets - mobo or vid card?
Battery will run ya 10$, I'd go that way first. Although video drivers (NV especially) have been the bane of Vista since it's inception. I'd also try upgrading to newer/older forceware and see what happens.
Author:  Topsecret66 [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: shutdowns due to error, time resets - mobo or vid card?
^^

agree
Author:  Hali_Newf [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: shutdowns due to error, time resets - mobo or vid card?
Agreed with Steve-O.

Also consider windows 7 at some point. Nvidia and ATI alike now support Windows 7 32 and 64-bit systems in terms of drivers.
Author:  CMDR Steve-O [ Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: shutdowns due to error, time resets - mobo or vid card?
Yes, one cannot stress enough Vista's supreme suckage!
Author:  ccm001 [ Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: shutdowns due to error, time resets - mobo or vid card?
CMDR Steve-O wrote:
Yes, one cannot stress enough Vista's supreme suckage!


I've never really had any problems with vista. I'm not saying its the greatest, but I've never had any issues.

I replaced the battery on Sunday, so far no more issues. Only cost me a little over $8. If it acts up again - I'll be back here ;)

Thanks all.
Author:  Hali_Newf [ Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: shutdowns due to error, time resets - mobo or vid card?
Good to hear you may have it worked out - we all know when puters act up it can get a lil frustrating/pain in the right a$$ cheek
Author:  CMDR Steve-O [ Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: shutdowns due to error, time resets - mobo or vid card?
Only 8$, man I do not have a clue on battery prices :P
Author:  Phonix [ Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: shutdowns due to error, time resets - mobo or vid card?
Hmm, maybe a coincidence, but there have been a lot of battery/cmos problems happening lately. I've had cmos problems with my home pc, work pc and a few work pc's i been repairing.

Not good, but an easy and cheap fix...
Author:  Topsecret66 [ Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: shutdowns due to error, time resets - mobo or vid card?
I think overall the CMOS's are fine and are "relatively" tested from the manufacturer. The battery's are probably not tested for longevity. Not only that but batteries are probably more prone to manufacturing defects especially if they are a widely used cheap brand. Not to mention how long they have been sitting in a warehouse in a box. For example a AM2 board could be sitting for a few years before someone has purchased it or even a S775 by now.

Just a thought.
Author:  ccm001 [ Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: shutdowns due to error, time resets - mobo or vid card?
So its been almost 2 weeks since I replaced the battery and I have had no issues since. Weird how windows can have "video errors" from a cmos battery. Anyways, I'm glad it was something simple and cheap :lol:
Author:  Hali_Newf [ Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: shutdowns due to error, time resets - mobo or vid card?
lmfao @ tops avatar and description

Its good to hear all issues went away. Also keep in mind if it happens again, you will remember what you did to fix it.
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