im looking to do some mild oc( im a first time builder and oc)i dont want to go to crazy im just looking for something to have a little bit of fun getting to know how to do it and we great ease at the same time. as the header says mobo and cpu for under 250 or close to it and im doing it with air no water cooler yet. im moving from console to pc and am looking frward to being able to tweak my system more then sticking a mod chip in

E5200 if you want a CPU on the cheap (though MB had E8500's for $100 earlier in the day ) As far as a mobo goes in that price range... I can't say for sure but perhaps the P5QL-PRO would be a decent board, you'd at least be good to over 4Ghz before you exceeded what the board was rated for. You'll probably need something better than a stock HSF though for that.

Both are $250.86 taxes inc.

What the FU C K!!!

8500 for 100?! your joking right?

Doc is right on the mobo and cpu. They can really clock. Much above a mild oc with mild ocing

sadly i live in nb and diffently couldnt make it to MB to get a 8500 but i wish i could have. im researching the mobo and cpu right after i type this.any suggestions for a amd set up?

For the sheer OC'ing joy, maybe a 5000+ Black Edition, but it pales in comparison to what a E5200 can do. The newer quad's and tri-cores seem to be out of your price range. The 6500+ should be decent, but I haven't seen it listed anywhere yet

The E2180 is only $92 pair that with a cheap MB for now maybe?

for fist time oc. id say buy something used, so that way you can push it to the limits, and not care. but if you're lookin for this to be ur main pc, e8400's are amazing oc chips, any of the p5k, p5n-d, or p5q series are decent

suggestions, do some research on your equipment,

****PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU DONT USE A PIECE OF SHIT POWER SUPPLY*******

know what your bios terms mean etc.

first thing to start with is to turn off (intel) intels fuckin speed thread and automatic shit. this will hold you back.

set your ram timings manually, bump up stock voltage. **slight increments at a time**

then make sure your ram and cpu are not ( fuck i forget the word at the moment) make sure you change the fsb seperatly on both.

bump up the frequencys like 5 or 10 mhz at a time. (some cases, bios will say FSB)

also bump your cpu voltage up a little

Denty sounds like he has tourette syndrome. But he doesn't and hes right as well.

Except for the ram and cpu timings...
He means keep them Unlinked to the FSB. I prfer to keep mine linked. Just make sure your not OCing your ram to 20,000,000,000,000 Mhz....

well from what i have read from guys and on other sites i think ill go with the e5200 which i dont plan on doing anything crazy like getting it up to 4 ghz or anything that high. i have a couple friends who had done some sucsessful ocing before so ill be turning to them for some suport. but for the mobo im still unsure on what to get. im checking out what other ppl have been using and have yet to see a big group of one board so its almost pick one and hope it works. thanks for the help and im sure ill be picking ur brains for some more info

lmao, nope im just fuhked up. and unlinked is what i was looking for. thanks