Last visit was: It is currently Wed Mar 12, 2025 12:45 pm


All times are UTC - 4 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 14 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Mobo and CPU
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:33 am 
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:43 pm
Posts: 351
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Ok I have ASUSM3A78-EMH HDMI mobo wich will only handle up to a 95watt cpu max, A 64X2 3.0ghz 6000+ and X4 2.4 9750 thats the max cpu I can use from what Ive been reading so are either worth the money from a 64X2 2.4 or am I better off getting a new mobo like a M4A78 PRO which will handle up to a 140watt cpu then my option are not so limited with cpu.


Top
Offline Profile Send private message E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mobo and CPU
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:51 am 
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:34 am
Posts: 1117
Location: Eastern Passage
I don't think you'd notice much of a difference between the two CPU's and the amount you'd pay vs the speed difference you would see upgrading the motherboard and CPU at this point probably isn't worth it.

Have you overclocked any of your hardware yet? It might be just what you need in getting a bit more speed on what you have and then saving the money for a more substantial upgrade.


Top
Offline Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:32 am 
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:43 pm
Posts: 351
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
so my mobo and a quad 2.4 from a dual 2.4 isnt worth the upgrade? instead im better off with a new mobo and lets say a Athlon64X2 3.26400+ or a 920 2.8 or 940 3.0 Phenom II X4 remmber im running a Athlon 64X2 2.4 on a M3A78-EMH HDMI mobo now, and if looking on a budget side to go with a M4A78 Pro $149.00 and a Athlon64X2 3.2 6400+ $134.00 would be a good choice or just better off spending the extra for a Quad 920 or 940?


Top
Offline Profile Send private message E-mail  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:13 am 
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:34 am
Posts: 1117
Location: Eastern Passage
deandulong wrote:
so my mobo and a quad 2.4 from a dual 2.4 isnt worth the upgrade?


If gaming is your main concern and not 3d rendering, movie editing or running distributed computing clients than no, it's not worth it.

deandulong wrote:
if looking on a budget side to go with a M4A78 Pro $149.00 and a Athlon64X2 3.2 6400+ $134.00 would be a good choice or just better off spending the extra for a Quad 920 or 940?


For the first option you'd be spending $283 for a minor upgrade at best in my opinion, which just isn't worth it. The Phenom II's are fairly interesting chips when it comes to their flexibility in being able to be paired up with older motherboards and DDR2 memory but since you'd still have to upgrade your motherboard in order to run one that takes away a lot of their appeal in this situation.

Are you dead set against Intel btw? A Core 2 Dou/Quad might be a decent upgrade for the price if someone was selling a pair used. Otherwise I would say hold on to what you have for a bit longer until it will make more of a difference.


Top
Offline Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:16 am 

Joined: Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:25 pm
Posts: 33
Location: Dartmouth
I did the swap from X2 6400/2gb ddr2 6400 to a X3 8750/2gb ddr2 8500 on a gigabyte board with a similar limitation.At stock clocks on both the system benched 3DM06 within 200 points of each other.So stepping down from 3.2ghz to 2.4ghz but raising the memory speed basicly equaled out.

_________________
Asus M4A785-M
PhenomII X4 970BE Cooler Master V8
4gb Kingston HyperX DDR2 8500
Sapphire HD5850
Seagate 320gb x2
Seagate 1tb
750w PC Power&Cooling
LG 32LD400 1080p
Win7 Pro 64bit


Top
Offline Profile Send private message E-mail  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:03 am 
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:34 am
Posts: 1117
Location: Eastern Passage
Antichrysler wrote:
So stepping down from 3.2ghz to 2.4ghz but raising the memory speed basicly equaled out.


That or the benchmark was bottle necked by your video card.

I seem to remember CPU scores in those tests not going towards your final score and just something for interest but I really only used 2001/2003 and things could have changed in the newer ones.


Top
Offline Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:17 am 
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:11 pm
Posts: 481
Location: Truro, NS
if you have an X2 now then there's not much point in going to a first generation Phenom X3 or X4, but going to a Phenom II may be well worth it. also, your board should be able to support the AM3 cpu's which will meet the 95W requirement in both the X3 and X4 varieties.
i'd actually recommend the Phenom II X3 720 if your motherboard supports it and then overclock that.


Top
Offline Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:55 pm 

Joined: Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:25 pm
Posts: 33
Location: Dartmouth
@Flama
The 9800GT OC may have been a bottleneck but i also tested my games with Fraps.Again framerates were within 5fps.

_________________
Asus M4A785-M
PhenomII X4 970BE Cooler Master V8
4gb Kingston HyperX DDR2 8500
Sapphire HD5850
Seagate 320gb x2
Seagate 1tb
750w PC Power&Cooling
LG 32LD400 1080p
Win7 Pro 64bit


Top
Offline Profile Send private message E-mail  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:11 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:43 pm
Posts: 351
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Monkeydee wrote:
if you have an X2 now then there's not much point in going to a first generation Phenom X3 or X4, but going to a Phenom II may be well worth it. also, your board should be able to support the AM3 cpu's which will meet the 95W requirement in both the X3 and X4 varieties.
i'd actually recommend the Phenom II X3 720 if your motherboard supports it and then overclock that.

Thats what i thought to that my board would support it but only the M3A78-EM is listed not the EMH and the Phenom II was what i was looking towards wich means they either offer support for my board or a new mobo is instore.


Top
Offline Profile Send private message E-mail  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 10:06 am 
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:34 am
Posts: 1117
Location: Eastern Passage
Antichrysler wrote:
@Flama
The 9800GT OC may have been a bottleneck but i also tested my games with Fraps.Again framerates were within 5fps.


I would think games are less likely to be bottlenecked by a videocard when compared to 3dMark's but it still could be the card... I was actually about to say "Newer 3DMark's" but I just remembered 2006 was 3 years ago. :?

Anyways, the point of what I was getting at is that I'm not saying the swap of CPU/Memory didn't equal each other out, but when it doesn't have much of an effect you have to consider there could be a bottleneck somewhere. :)


Top
Offline Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 1:37 pm 

Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:10 pm
Posts: 562
grab a x2 7750 black edition and a biostar T790GX128M mobo and you unlock it to a quad via ACC. i just grabbed it for my htpc and its great, o/c's to about 3.4ghz as well.


Top
Offline Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 8:10 pm 

Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:23 am
Posts: 887
wait what. u can turn a dual core chip into a quad core.

_________________
:)


Top
Offline Profile Send private message  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 1:45 pm 

Joined: Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:25 pm
Posts: 33
Location: Dartmouth
ronedogg wrote:
wait what. u can turn a dual core chip into a quad core.


Sometimes it seems you can.
http://www.techpowerup.com/92330/Athlon ... -Core.html

_________________
Asus M4A785-M
PhenomII X4 970BE Cooler Master V8
4gb Kingston HyperX DDR2 8500
Sapphire HD5850
Seagate 320gb x2
Seagate 1tb
750w PC Power&Cooling
LG 32LD400 1080p
Win7 Pro 64bit


Top
Offline Profile Send private message E-mail  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 1:47 pm 

Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:10 pm
Posts: 562
gotta be a biostar TA790GX or an asrock 790GX based board to work from what I have read.


Top
Offline Profile Send private message  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 14 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 4 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group