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 Post subject: Autism Garden?!
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:01 pm 
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Not one of the funny stories but a rant.

Anyhow did anyone notice a wild growth of autism cases in the news lately as well as special needs cases?

It's like it all popped up yesterday. Anyhow just wanted to say my opinion so fire up the shit oven.

I'm just getting tired of the commercial of the (Politically correct) "Mental Health Consumers" A.K.A. (Not so correct now) "Handicapped" on television for schools. Like seriously. Why the fuck now and why are they plastering their faces all over television. Personally I think BET is a shit channel but they may as well make a MHC-TV as well now.

1. We had resource in school and those kids were treated with the greatest of respect. I don't know why there are so many problems that the post it all over tv (and probably youtube too..)

2. The Bus incident. Well here is where things may get a bit more offensive.. The story has changed here and there. But what I believe out of them is the fact the bus driver can't drive while a kid is acting like Godzilla on LSD. So anyways you expect a bus to wait even 5 minutes for the kid to calm down, I dont fucking think so. People take the bus to work and being consistany late, etc is a burden to their jobs and that of the employers. It's a string of events, huge string that effects alot of stuff.

3. Here is a neat one. My fiancee has her brother down along with his wife who is a know it all parent (nut job) along with their 2 children. One of them being a 12 year old boy who is taught only to sit to pee (oh and has a peanut allergy). Apparently I found out recently in their school of about 1200 children cannot have peanut butter due to one person being allergic to it. Anyways I don't have much to say about this as it's a bit off topic and absolutely rediculous. But it's something along the lines of special needs that are being abused. And like hell in my days if I couldn't have my P&J!!!

4. Now i'm not hating on "mental health consumers" i'm moreso hating on the parents who dream their children can live a normal life. FACT: They can't. They require special needs and these problems arise because of false hope... or stupidity (probably).

Well atleast we have our freedom of speech somewhat. And that's my opinion.


Discuss.

Brian

P.S.

Ref: Metro Transit and Autism Child Incident. http://thechronicleherald.ca/forum/read/19/134012/134012

Ref: Peanut Butter Ban. http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2008/08/08/peanut-bans.html

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 Post subject: Re: Autism Garden?!
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:24 pm 
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This is taken form the CBC comments from user Silversaab

"The incredible increase in so called cases of "autism" are the result of modern parenting methods, not a new disease that is supposadily running rampant through our children in cases where children do not meet acceptable norms of behavior they need to be removed from their parents influence and re-educated to become productive members of society. The parents also will require re-education to be able to bring their children up properly. Just because someone can have children does not mean that they should. This is the only way to prevent situations where a child is allowed to hijack the safety and good order of a bus full of good citizens my kudo's to the bus driver for doing the proper thing.Shame on you to the parents that are trying to get this man into trouble and attention to their cause- more money for their so called illness."

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 Post subject: Re: Autism Garden?!
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:45 pm 
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I find the school system here so contradictory and repulsive. Things are put into play because they 'sound good' and not alot of actual thought out any and every possible outcome is taken into consideration.

ok - kids with allergies and serious ones to peanuts and by products. We had kids like that when I went to school. So what. they didnt eat it - the school didnt take that option away from everyone else tho. Depending on severity - they sat at a distance sometimes but still, with kids that didnt have PB for lunch. There was never an issue. Other kids were not peeved cause they couldnt eat something they clearly can.

Dont get me started on the sittin down to pee thing. Brainwashing at its best toward the negative - without any thought to any and every possible negative outcome.


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 Post subject: Re: Autism Garden?!
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:49 pm 

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I like to call it the slow march towards equalling eveyone to the lowest common denominator (lcd).

The lcd has at minimum, is A.D.D. to some degree, a mild form of learning disorder, an alergy which forces everyone around them to modify their life, and my personal favorite, to f'in fat for the class to enjoy sports activities.

Those 10 year olds who weigh 180lbs should be taken into protective custody for their own health and safety.

The funny thing about it all, is that we as tax payers and some of us parents have allowed the system to be crafted in such a manor.

If you can afford it, then get the kids into private education.

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 Post subject: Re: Autism Garden?!
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:44 pm 
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I know Christine and I were talking about putting chase into private education mainly for that fact.

The system is working in pure reverse for those with disabilities thus forcing the 'norm' to pay for what it used to be even 15 years ago.

One way or the other the honest family has to pay.

There are also people who exploit this system as well. And that is a growing problem. Just pisses me off because when tax time comes in to play to accomodidate it's all coming out of our pockets. Wait for it.

What bothers me the most is I dont agree with the 'LCD' changes. And they keep doing shit that I don't agree with which costs me money in taxes.

This is why I don't vote. Because no matter what professional liar (politician) I pick it doesn't make a difference and I don't have a choice.

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 Post subject: Re: Autism Garden?!
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:08 pm 
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The peanut thing really burns my bacon. If it's bad for you, it's up to you to stay away from it, not every single person you 'may' come into contact with. (Best avoid food in Indonesia mkay) All this protectionist crap in the world today will have us extinct in a few decades - or living like the people in WALL.E. The toy's I played with as a kid were deadly(if used incorrectly), now I have to wear a helmet to ride a bike, or get fined.

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 Post subject: Re: Autism Garden?!
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:20 pm 
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Thanks for joining in the conversation Ski, Hali and Dr. I did honestly feel I would be flamed for expressing my opinion on a 'sensitive' subject.

It's good to know that there are opinions out there and so far I have to say I agree with you all. I do wish that we could make a change with them as well. But you never know..

I would like to hear more. And as I check i'll be doing some research on articles.


Brian

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From CBC:

"Croft said his son is often over-stimulated by loud noises and large groups. Although the outbursts can be unsettling and disruptive, he said, that's no reason to kick him off."

So ever see soccer moms driving minivans with dents from what is comparable as a minor disruption from kids. Well lets sum this up.

Okay lets add a 40 ft. Metro Transit Bus driving down Spring Garden Rd crowded with people.

Now add this:

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Screaming and flipping out behind a bus driver.

Now Mr. Croft neglecting the safety of other pedestrians and other drivers in smaller vehicles quotes "his son is often over-stimulated by loud noises and large groups". And lets his son on a god damn bus filled with people.

Plain and simple Mr. Croft should be shot and pissed on. As someone could be killed because of that. And who's gonna pay? Oh not the neglective ass of a father but the bus driver.

After all this media coverage Child Services should be doing an investigation.

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 Post subject: Re: Autism Garden?!
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:30 pm 
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...its funny just how many kids have this a.d.d.

When I was a kid, any one of us who had trouble were given extra attention in class and at home. It was virutally non-existant as the attention from the parents especially curbed this. Nowadays it seems as tho every second parent claims they're child has a.d.d and puts them on meds.

It alot of these cases its un-nessesary when all thats needed in alot of these cases - is parents spending time with they're children. There is always an exception to every rule and yes at times meds are needed. All I am saying is that too many doctors and too many parents medicate instead of actually being a parent and working with any child that shows a problem. Some people just shouldnt have kids.

I'm with you Topsecret. Its really nice to see other people have very intelligent and valid points to offer. I also dont vote for the same reasons. Now if We could snap our fingers and make a few changes. Nothing worse than the typical "fat" family. Makes me wanna smack parents when I see them stuffing Crack-donalds in kids faces. I can go on and on.


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 Post subject: Re: Autism Garden?!
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:22 pm 
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now it's time for me to chime in.

on the autistic bus incident. I hope this driver does not get fired. In fact I commend him on stopping the bus due to the adverse driving conditions. I wish more drivers would do this. Many a time i've been in the bus with a screaming child and the bus driver would be visibly bothered and keep driving anyway. The driver would then miss stops, not notice cars slowing in front of him/her and just have relatively sloppy driving. Yet because it's usually a baby the driver does not feel safe kicking the kid off for fear that some angry parent/relative wikll hunt him/her down or lodge a complaint that will get the driver fired. It's complete nonsense that people would expect a driver to put up with screaming babies while attempting to drive a vehicle containing upwards of 70 people (depending on make of bus). Currently there are signs on the buses that state the driver has the authority to remove anyone displaying aggressive or offensive behaviour. I would count this autistic child as aggressive behaviour and support his removal from the bus.
These drivers have no time to wait for 5 minutes for someone to calm down before continuing. It's a bus on Spring Garden Road (likely the #1) which is more than likely already late and people need to make connections in order to not be up to an hour late for an appointment or shift at work or whatever.


now, on to the autistic children in the classrooms. Years ago (too long ago for me to really remember) I was told about provincially run schools specifically for special needs people, but the government decided to shut them down and put the special needs kids in with the rest of us. They had "sped" classes for them which helped the rest of us, but those classes did nothing to teach those people how to be productive members of society when many of those people clearly were social enough to be given that last push into a normal life. Instead they were left with this glorified babysitter service run by volunteers which did the special needs students absolutely no good and has been giving high school diplomas to people who can't read, can't write, and can't generally function in society.
If someone else could elaborate on these special needs schools i'd be much obliged.

on to the allergies. With the peanut butter allergy some people only need to smell it and they're off to the hospital. It's a shame really to have such a severe allergy. A buddy of mine has a death allergy to eggs, but did they ban eggs from the schools for him? No. He was told to deal with it. I don't see how contact/injestion allergies with peanuts should be treated any differently. With "scent" allergies that student should be removed from the school system entirely and home schooled with government support to the parents to make that possible. I would arther have my tax dollars go to that than go to repaving the entrance to the St. Margaret's Bay road at the rotary for the 3rd time in 3 years.

As for being taught to piss while sitting down.... I'm not even going there. It's called be a father and teah your kid how to aim. If you're a single mother, then that's the hat you have to wear.

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