Agreed. Like the Ruby Figure too...wonder if its scratch n sniff LOL

from what i am reading and seeing with the current products, i will make a guess that the price will be $450 cdn and at that price point its just not worth it if you have a current midrange/highend card.

well lets hope not but if the current trend stays, then you are definately in the ballpark with that one. May be a good time soon to upgrade as the 4 series cards should be alot cheaper. I am looking for an excuse to get away from my two 3870's anyways

ATi won't be selling any cards at the 450$ price point, this screwed up economy won't allow it.

UNLESS they are incredibly stupid, then they deserve to fail.

i am guessing its gonna take over the 4870x2's price point which now is between 400-480. for them to sell below 400 means they have to dump shat loads of high end stock for nothing and take massive loses on the discounting so i seriously doubt you will see it for less then 400cdn. i could be wrong, i'm just going with my gut feeling.


and if you think the 5870x2 will be less then $450 i think thats wishful thinking....time will tell i supppose.

maybe i'm to use to flagship products being overpriced.....

Yes, because the new "flagship products" are usually involved with NVidia somehow.

It's been a while (ever?) since ATi has been able to intro a product that should take the performance crown AND not have NV anywhere near a launch (2010?) to trump it.

Fingers crossed on the price point. But my gut also tells me the same - pricey. Guess time will tell in that arena. If the prices do drop as much as I am hoping, I am moving up to a 4 series card - or two lol

on a side note - it was the max burn on the 64 bit xp from an iso that caused it to fail. the 4x worked like a charm and the performance difference with that os is insane. For the moment, its running 6G of Ram on an asus xfire board and an AMD 6400+ cpu stock. Now I wanna do 64 Bit on my main gaming Rig. lol

ATI Radeon 5850, 5870, 5870X2 pricing revealed?

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/9/2/ati-radeon-58502c-58702c-5870x2-pricing-revealed.aspx

300$ for the 5850, 400$ for the 5870 and 600$ for the 5870x2?

That pricing model doesn't make sense as no one in their right mind would spend 400$ on the 5870 when then 5870x2 is less then twice that.

I'd have to say it would be $200 ($160-4850), $300 ($210-4870) and $650 ($500-4870x2), since I've never seen the 4870x2 less than double the price of a 4870...

"they want to firmly beat nVidia and establish themselves as the kings of GPU market."

Good luck with that one... Don't get me wrong ATI is good. But I would say Nvidia has been king of the castle more often and will remain that way.

Oh well same fight different day.

The X2 probably won't be available for about 30days after the real launch. In the meantime the rabid fanbois will buy 5870's and hope the prices drop after the X2's become available and then they can pick up another one, or get one used from someone who was to impatient to wait for the X2.

Both manufacturers are great, ATI and Nvidia. Performance is very comparable on each side of that fence. Prices are comparable as well as in terms of performance.

I used to be an Nvidia Fanboi until two cards in a row made a cap gun sound and stopped working - chalk it up to bad luck. There is always going to be arguing over who is better and for what reason. I would rather THEY fight it out and the consumer reap the benefits of a faster, more reliable, less pwr hungry and better performing card for the lower price.

I am also awaiting real-world benchmarks and performance tests of the 5 series ATI - also would like to see the difference ( if any ) in dx11 from 10 and 10.1

Well it's the 10th now, hopefully some NDA stuffies will be leaked and it has...

http://bbs.chiphell.com/viewthread.php?tid=53938&extra=page%3D1
CPU:AMD Phenom II X4 955BE
Win 7 RTM
VGA:HD5870 1GB(核心频率高于零售版)

Crysis 1900x1200 4AA+16AF DX10 Very 58High
min:30.**
avg:43.**
max:54.**


Whatever, I don't play Crysis, but I know that's a freaking awesome number, especially for 1 video card.



Hmmmmmm, I guess it really doesn't matter what the shroud looks like.



2 DVI, 1 HDMI and 1 Displayport. Neat! As long as I can put it in my case...

From ABT:

According to our own sources, the new HD 5870 offers over 1600 Stream processors. Amazingly AMD doubled the number of SIMD units from 10 to 20. Since each SIMD unit contains 16 5-D units and a Quad-TMU overall, that means we count 1600 stream processors and 80 TMUs. We are talking about a new videocard whose core speed is at 850 MHz and whose 256-bit GDDR5 runs at 1200 MHz – all for the suggested retail of $399! AMD is expecting HD 5870 to come close to the performance of a HD 4870-X2 or the GTX 295.

There is a new feature that is called “eyefinity” which means that three LCDs can be simultaneously supported at 2560×1600, with options for future cards to support up to six LCDs!

The HD 5870 die size is slightly over 330 MM2 and packed with over 2 billion transistors. This translates into one beast of a card with just over 150 GB/second bandwidth. It is very likely that the 8X + 8X PCIe CrossFire slots of the new p55 motherboards for Core i5 will become saturated with two of them.

What is outstanding is that we are hearing that the HD 5870 will perform at just under 28 watts at idle and peak below 190 watts maximum!! That is quite a challenge for Nvidia to meet or beat in their own upcoming GT 300 series as the performance to watt ratio is outstanding.

What is also new to watch for in the HD 58X0 series besides its DX11 capability is that there is a new AA/AF algorithm, where everything on the render back end has been doubled. As a benefit for gamers, that means much less of a performance hit when going from no AA to 4xAA or perhaps even from 4xAA to 8xAA.

The new HD 5850 will launch on September 23 also. We hear it is priced below $299. HD 5850 will sport 1440 stream processors and it will have lower clockspeeds than its big brother. We are hearing somewhere around 700/1000 MHz and it can also display simultaneously on three LCDs at up to 2560×1600 resolution.

Finally, you can expect the HD 5870-X2 to be released in the second half of October.

You heard it here at AlienBabelTech first. And we also think that you may be pleasantly surprised when you actually get your hands on one.

Mark Poppin

ABT Senior Editor
http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=11135

Looking at those numbers, a 5870 should be on par with a 4870X2, without the grief of Crossfire.

Looks like it needs a Z71 branding hah!

Just the plastic shroud...i'd rather look at the other part heh.

What I really like is that I can take my 2 1920x1200 monitors and turn it into a proper 3840x1200 gaming screen woo!

Faud is still going on about 400$ for the 5870, but I've seen lots other places at the 300$ USD price point...

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15434/65/

We finally figured out out the final specification of the chip that we called RV870 and the fact that AMD plans to call it Radeon HD 5870 doesn’t come as a big surprise. The chip works at 825MHz and has 1600 shaders, two times more than RV770 which indicates that the chip is two times faster than the year old RV770.

The chip has as mmany as 2.1 billion transistors and is more than twice the number the RV770 packs, which has 956 million transistors. The card uses GDDR5 memory clocked at 1.3GHz (5.2GHz in quad mode) and can provide more than 150GB/second bandwidth. The power of this card stays at 180W while in idle the power drops down to 27W, three times less than the 90W on 4870.

By a rough specification-based estimate, the Radeon HD 5870 could end up two times faster than the Radeon HD 4870 but realistically, you should expect the new card to be faster by about 60 percent across the board.
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15436/1/