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 Post subject: CRTC firms up pricing rules on Usage Based Billing
PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:49 pm 
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http://www.digitalhome.ca/2011/01/crtc-firms-up-pricing-rules-on-usage-based-billing/

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In a telecom decision handed down yesterday, the CRTC has mandated that Bell Canada and other telephone carriers must offer wholesale internet access service providers a 15% discount on retail usage Billing rates beginning March 1, 2011.

Wholesale or third-party Internet access (TPIA) providers, such as Primus Canada or Teksavvy, lease internet capacity from Bell and other telcos and resell Internet services to consumers, typically at rates and service levels superior to the phone companies.
The federal regulators decision means that starting in March, third-party Internet access providers will be required to cap internet usage for consumers in Ontario at 25GB. The regulator has set the cap in Quebec at 60GB.

Beyond the provincial cap, the government is now forcing TPIA providers in to charge internet users a Usage Based premium for any usage beyond the 25GB cap. Beginning March 1st, TPIA customers who exceed their cap will be required to pay $2.00/GB to a maximum of $60.00/month for any additional usage up to 300 GB per month. Usage in excess of 300GB per month will be charged a further $1.10/GB. Usage plans where consumers can purchase blocks of additional date will be offered. The current rate will $5/month for an additional 40GB.


This will only mean more expensive internets. Dunno what Eastlink's status on it would be though.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:35 pm 
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well eastlink may not have a choice. If they ask Eastlink to fork over usage stats they will charge eastlink and they will have to choice but to bill the customer to get the revenue.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:09 pm 
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I don't think Eastlink is a wholesale subscriber of Bell. I rifled an email off the Eastlink about it.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:43 am 
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http://www.channelcanada.com/Article5436.html

(Bell is synonimous with Shaw, Rogers and Telus)

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For residents in the Martimes, Eastlink have stated they do NOT intend to charge UBB.

The whole thing is with UBB is: If someone like Bell has a wholesale customer that resells to smaller communities, and they decide to implement UBB to them, then they implement UBB to every single individual entity. In the past the wholesalers were able to offer a lower price than someone like Bell, because Bell is a bunch of moneygrubbing jackwagons.

This would quite possibly be the best thing to ever happen to Eastlink and other companies large enough to not have Bell, Rogers or Shaw as a backbone to rent from.

The sh!t hits fan on March 1st. If your internet bills doubles, and you didn't leave Rogers (60GB cap), Shaw (100GB for extreme) or Bell/Telus (25GB cap) for a company like Eastlink, it's your own stupid fault.

25GB is laughable. Youtube, Netflix, VOIP and Steam live and die by the ability of users to download craploads of data.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:55 am 
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Generic form TekSavvy, a Telus wholesale redistributor in Ontario and Quebec.

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Dear TekSavvy Customer,

There are a lot of things going on at TekSavvy that we want to be sure you know about, including the introduction of some exciting new services, and changes to some existing ones.

TEKSAVVY VOIP SERVICE On its way!

The TekSavvy voice over Internet (VoIP) service finish line is in sight! We will soon be launching our hot new VoIP service, aggressively priced to allow our customers to save even more with TekSavvy while you benefit from the cutting edge "technology savvy" options you've come to expect from us! Great pricing with great features, coming soon!

Usage Based Billing-UBB

As some of you know, the CRTC recently rendered a decision forcing all independent DSL and Cable Internet providers to substantially match incumbent (like Bell) usage rate caps. This will influence all of our internet service packages eventually, but DSL residential customers in Ontario and Quebec first, as of March 1. Along with you, we are not pleased with this, and our view is more fully expressed in our press release which you can find here: http://www.teksavvynews.com/

From March 1 on, users of the up to 5 Mbps packages in Ontario can expect a usage cap of 25GB (60GB in Quebec), substantially down from the 200GB or unlimited deals TekSavvy was able to offer before the CRTC's decision to impose usage based billing. Users who were on unlimited package rates will be returned to $31.95 capped rates although larger blocks of bandwidth can be purchased.*

In order to facilitate this transition we have constructed a new easy-to-navigate portal at https://myworld.teksavvy.com where our customers can choose from the amended and new packages.
The details of our new rate plans and charges can be found there. You will be able to register using the account information found at the end of this email. More on the portal below. In addition, in order to accommodate these changes, we have amended our Terms of Service, primarily regarding implementation. The amended Terms form part of your Agreement with TekSavvy and can be viewed at https://secure.teksavvy.com/en/termspolicies.asp.

Please note if you do not choose a new service before March 1, 2011, your existing package will be transitioned into an amended package. Existing packages and the ones they will be replaced with in each case can be found at http://teksavvy.com/en/faq-ubb_on.asp for Ontario and http://teksavvy.com/en/faq-ubb_qc.asp for Quebec.

Content and data like Netflix, YouTube, IPTV, large file downloads or other streaming services can consume large amounts of bandwidth and place your cap limits in jeopardy very quickly. We encourage you to monitor your usage carefully, as the CRTC has imposed a very high overage rate, above your new monthly limit, of $1.90 per gigabyte ($2.35 per gigabyte in Quebec).

The CRTC did however provide an option for insurance usage blocks at $4.75 per 40GB block per month, which can be purchased if you want to reduce your cost for use above 25GB (60GB in Quebec).

Ontario and Quebec up to 5 Mbps users with a monthly limit of 25GB and 60GB respectively:

Insurance Blocks Offered:

* $4.75 - 40GB extra usage
* $9.50 - 80GB extra usage
* $14.25 - 120GB extra usage (maximum 3 blocks)
* $55.00 - 275GB extra usage (maximum 240GB extra usage in Quebec)

To select a new package please visit https://myworld.teksavvy.com
You will be able to register using the account information found at the end of this email.

Unhappy With the UBB Decision? So Are We!-Join Us!

The CRTC decision to impose UBB on the whole market is a big win for Bell and other major carriers, but a big hit to everyone else. To view the CRTC decision, go to:

http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2011/2011-44.htm

Like our customers, and Canadian internet users everywhere, we are not happy with this new development. We will continue our efforts to fight the imposition of exorbitant bandwidth charges on usage with virtually no incremental cost to Bell and other UBB carriers, and we will develop strategies to restore the usage levels and costs our customers have come to expect. But we need your support to succeed, and get back to the cost structure we have a right to expect.

If like us you are disappointed with the CRTC's decision, make your views known on UBB and what it means to you (and Canada frankly) by going to http://www.stopthemeter.ca, where you will find a petition against UBB. Sign it, get involved, and together we will make a difference! Let everyone you know understand that Canada is about to become the most expensive internet market in the industrialized world!

We will keep you informed of our efforts, and look to you for your help.

If you would like to get more involved go to these links to make your thoughts known and join this battle:

* http://www.stopthemeter.ca - signing the petition will now automatically send our Minister of Industry, Tony Clement, the person politically responsible for the CRTC, an email.
* Join the twitter campaign at http://act.ly/2kw
* Join the Facebook campaign http://www.facebook.com/notes/openmedia ... 5248704798

TEKSAVVY CABLE Internet Expansion

The cable Internet roll-out continues vigorously! We now have Cable Internet, at higher speeds than DSL, across much of the Greater Toronto Area, including Richmond Hill and Mississauga. Many more high speed locations are expected soon!

TEKSAVVY CUSTOMER PORTAL

After months of testing and tweaking we're pleased to announce the launch of our new customer portal, where you will be able to view your customer details, Internet usage and if needed pre-purchase additional usage blocks. Go to https://myworld.teksavvy.com to receive your online access information.

We thank you for your continued patronage as we work hard for your Internet enjoyment and future!

Sincerely,
Rocky Gaudrault
CEO

To contact us:

By Mail: TekSavvy Solutions Inc.
330 Richmond Street, Suite 205
Chatham, Ontario
N7M 1P7

By Telephone: 1-877-779-1575
By Fax: 1-519-360-1716
By Email: supportoteksavvy.com



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 Post subject: Re: CRTC firms up pricing rules on Usage Based Billing
PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:01 am 
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Sorry for all the replies, but they are differing thoughts:

The phrase O' the day: Regulatory Capture

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Regulatory_capture

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25GB is a joke, my Steam folder is 73.5GB and I only have a couple of games installed.

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the reasoning behind the ridiculously low caps is to discourage the use of VOIP, youtube, Netflix and other such services. These free/cheap services are in direct competition to digital cable and home phone services. Why pay $150/month for phone/internet/tv when you can get everything over just the internet for $50/month or cheaper? This is what Bell/Rogers/Shaw don't want you doing. These companies also make money from the content they provide on their over-priced services. By limiting your available content to that which they create/own they are securing themselves more profit.

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Looks like Eastlink is slipping a 250GB cap on the 30Mbps offering.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:52 am 
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Dr_BenD_over wrote:
Looks like Eastlink is slipping a 250GB cap on the 30Mbps offering.

Eastlink has been saying that ever since they started offering it since at least last May. I would have opted in for extreme 30 but 10$ a month for higher bandwidth and identical latency isn't appealing.

Yeah, it still says "coming soon" on their page:
http://www.eastlink.ca/internet/docsis3-30/index.asp


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:49 am 
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http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2011/02/02/ns-usage-based-billing.html
So neither Eastlink or Bell Aliant have any plans to implement UBB. I'm sure Bell Aliant isn't doing UBB because Eastlink isn't. They'd have a customer revolt! It's nice to be the only province that hasn't lost it's mind on this issue.

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http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/02/03/ ... d#comments

I never thought the Conservative government would be against this but it looks that way.


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Another link to an article on the rejection of it.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/federal-government-expects-crtc-overturn-internet-bandwidth-ruling-20110202-211104-406.html

Some irony in that he tweeted about it first. Lol.

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http://www.tektok.ca/2011/02/crtc-decision-to-be-overruled-tony-clement-via-twitter/

Depends on wording...but it looks like no matter what, the CRTC ruling will not go ahead as worded...woo!

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Yay, Jack Layton to the rescue?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g1JHbUP8EM&feature=player_embedded#

New buzzwords: Gigagouge, gigatax...CRTC = Consumers Rarely Taken (into) Consideration.


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